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Historical Heroes with Jade Lee

  • May. 5th, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Yesterday, the incomparable Debra Mullins talked about historical heroines.  Today, the fabulous Jade Lee has agreed to give historical heroes their due.  Not only that, but she's giving a way a free book to one lucky commenter!  I'm pasting the link to her bio here, because it's really, really worth checking out, especially those fun facts.  Take it away, Jade!

To Neanderthal or Not—that is the question!

            When Lucienne asked me to write about historical heroes, I said, “Of course I can!  I know just what to do!” Why?  Because, frankly, that’s what I always say to industry professionals.  And then I figure it out (whatever “it” is) when I’m off the phone.

            Now don’t get me wrong.  I have a lot of opinions about historical heroes, especially my own.  I tend to like the dark, tortured ones.  They’re powerful, brooding men that can only release their personal demons through my heroine’s love, advice, and usually a brutal slap upside the head.  “Duh,” she says both physically and metaphorically, “that wasn’t your fault.  Get over it!  We’ve got a bad guy to vanquish!”  Or then there’s the ever popular, “Duh, you’re not responsible for <blank>!”  The blank could be anything from a childhood trauma to global warming.  Oops!  We’re not talking about present problems, but historical ones.

            But you see, there’s the problem!  My heroes tend to be dark, tortured men whether they’re written in a historical time period or the present.  So what makes a historical hero special?

            Well, my regency era heroes get to wear cool clothes and go to balls.  They need to be witty in an urbane kind of way, My Chinese heroes are physically dominant (gotta love those kung-fu heroes!), but more they have mystical energy training that makes them unique in the white heroine’s perspective.  But none of that is uniquely historical.  Contemporary heroes can have kung-fu powers, wear cool clothes, and be snarky.  So what makes a historical hero special?

            The only thing I could come up with is that a historical hero can be more alpha.  After all, he’s a product of his time.  It’s much more acceptable for a guy from 1800 to have neanderthal attitudes about women.  That “me man, you my woman” <grunt, grunt> is certainly a product of the time.  A contemporary hero with that attitude just feels out-of-date.  Military guys get away with it, as does the occasional Greek tycoon and werewolf, but in general, we expect our men nowadays to be more egalitarian in their attitudes toward women.

            So that leads to the obvious question.  Why oh why do we love those neanderthal men?  Why do we dive into the regency, the medieval, even cowboy/Indian west to get that alpha male domination?  (Well, aside from the fact that I like going to balls or pretending that I’m prancing around with Shakespeare in Love.)

            My answer?  My heroine is powerful, so she needs a powerful man to match her in an exciting, titanic, clash of wills.  That makes their love all that more amazing.  And frankly–historical or contemporary–who doesn’t want a powerful man on his knees before you saying, “I will devote all my considerable power, status, and devotion to you and our children.  We’re bonded forever.  I will never leave you and I will protect you and our children with my very last breath.”

            Wow!  How amazing is that?  To have a guy who started the book thinking you were just a pitiful little woman, ending the story on his knees before you That’s a great story!

            So now it’s your turn.  Did I miss anything?  Why do you like a historical hero?  And yes, I did miss something.  A side note that I couldn’t fit anywhere else.  Historically, society was much more stratified, so the h/h have that particular problem to overcome whereas in the present, there are much fewer obstacles to marrying rich/poor, Protestant/Catholic, Chinese/Caucasian, etc.  But I’m sure I missed something else!  And one lucky commenter will get a free Jade Lee book–contemporary, historical, or fantasy romance, your choice!

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Jade Lee

USA TODAY BESTSELLING AUTHOR

Dragonbound  April 09

The Concubine (Blaze historical) Feb 09

Winter Heat (anthology)  Jan 09

The Dragon Earl  Sept 08

 






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Comments

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[info]debramullins wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 01:41 pm (UTC)
Great point!
Great points, Jade! As women, we kind of like that alpha male quality. It speaks to us on a visceral level. But if a man pulled that on us--at least so obviously--in today's society, we'd probably label him an arrogant jerk and walk away. But I think all women throughout time respond to the idea that a strong man is willing to make himself vulnerable to her and only her, and authors are able to show that gender difference in starker contrast if the hero is a knight or a viking or a werewolf or a powerful duke.
[info]badbookworm wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
I think that your point about power is a telling one. Romances are, to some-extent, wish-fulfillment, and we've all felt powerless at some time in our lives. By identifying with a heroine who is powerless (because of her social class, background, life experiences, or simply because she is a woman), we are able to vicariously experience the thrill of reclaiming power. Our heroine ultimately becomes powerful through the devotion of a male character who is superficialy much stronger - and not because of birth or influence, but simply because of who she is. That's pretty heady stuff.
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 02:53 pm (UTC)
I love historicals - mostly for the heroes and the settings, really. They're one of the best ways to transport yourself to another place.

-Kristen Painter
[info]writermomof5.wordpress.com wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
I think you nailed it. That image of a powerful man who doesn't blink at danger, who is strong and courageous and is now putty in your hands... Irresistable.
[info]miintikwa wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 05:39 pm (UTC)
Oh wow! That book looks awesome! *puts on 'want' list!*
[info]jadeleeauthor wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 07:08 pm (UTC)
I've always loved historicals. In fact, I made it through adolescence on traditional regencies. A handsome aristocrat who thought I was fresh and exciting and the only thing he needed to bring fulfillment to his life? Wow, heady stuff! Er...I meant the heroine did that for the hero. I was just living vicariously... well, you know what I mean! And I still remember when I read my first larger historical...with sex! WOW! Either hot or not, the fantasy still runs deep.
[info]ramprat wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 09:36 pm (UTC)
The evolution of the historical fiction alpha male.
When I was finally allowed to read romances at the age of 13, many historicals were not of the Georgette Heyer type. I had to sneak quite a few author's past my mother's sharp scrutiny. A lot of racy historicals were out that were extremely popular - think Rosemary Rogers. I will never understand why a woman would like the alpha male to treat her in that manner and fall helplessly in love with him. Okay, I will admit I still like The Flame and the Flower even though my brain tells me I shouldn't. It's been interesting over the last few decades watching the alpha hero evolve into somthing other than a sex-controlled person. In my opinion, we now have the erotic and sexy alpha male who is likeable and someone a smart heroine would fall in love with.
[info]shellefly wrote:
May. 5th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
I think one thing that allows the alpha male to be so delightful in a historical romance is that we have distance from him. He is not right here right now, he is a dramatic figure in the past, he is a fantasy, so we women can give in to our momentary desire of wanting to be overpowered/swept away without having to worry about who will do the dishes or does this man make me feel positive about myself or any of our modern day concerns.

Women have SO much responsibility now - we are mothers, wives, bosses, workers, we have families and careers and community commitments and we have to keep it all together. The idea of being grabbed by the hair, tied up and thrown on to a pirate ship before one can grab one's day planner or return any of the list of one million phone calls/emails ... damn, that's SEXY! And if I can't live it, I want to read about it.
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 12:39 am (UTC)
The article and comments about historical romance heroes are interesting. I agree with the comments about the fantasy of the alpha hero--especially one who becomes devoted to the heroine. I think they are more believable in historical romance than in most contemporary romance. Probably most of us wouldn't really want to deal with an alpha male--but they sure are fun to read about!

Your new book sounds like it has a great alpha male, Jade!

Jan
[info]theironchocho wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
I find a man who denies his wrong doing, but admits his mistakes and makes up for it throughout the story much more appealing than the kind of man described in the second paragraph. If a man does feel responsible for something that isn't his fault, it is insensitive for a woman going around telling him to get over it. "You're not responsible for the death of your sister! Get over it!" As if getting over any situation that involves guilt is easy.

Historical heroes can be more alpha, but there were men who weren't, even though they tried to appear as if they were. Jonathan Harker from Dracula is a great example of this. He is a partial idiot who wants to fit the dominant male category so much he can't think in any other frame of mind while a monster tries to steal his wife. It would be great to see a man realize he is not a typical man of his times, accept it, and vanquish the evil that threatens him through his unique strengths. A man on his knees, devoting himself to a woman, doesn't necessarily mean he has changed his stance on her being a pitiful little woman.

A great story would be about two flawed people who learn from each other, and both profess devotion because they have changed for the better by what they have learned. Especially when the characters are from different classes or cultures, there is so much they can learn about themselves and the world by stepping out of these ridiculous roles that not everyone in history fit into or followed.
[info]michele_lang wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 04:14 am (UTC)
I'm with shellefy on this one...the past is another country as they say, and I've always loved the fantasy of disappearing into a place where the men are strong, the women are beautiful, and the times demand heroism from both. Yeah!

Jade, you *know* I am your fangirl...LOVE your kung fu heroes! :)

[info]jadeleeauthor wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 12:27 pm (UTC)
And the winner is...
First off...GREAT COMMENT theironchocho! Really made me think about some stuff deeper. I almost gave you the free book prize because you made me think deeper about stuff.

But...I had to do a random drawing. Which means...BADBOOKWORM! You've one a free Jade Lee book! So...give me an email at jade@jadeleeauthor.com
[info]varkat wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 12:48 pm (UTC)
Re: And the winner is...
Jade, thanks so much for your guest blog and giveaway! It was a pleasure having you!
[info]theironchocho wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 04:00 pm (UTC)
Re: And the winner is...
Hi Jade, I'm glad my comment was useful. I was worried about posting it because I thought I might offend you or someone else, but I should remember that authors have thick skin. Thanks for considering me for the prize. =)
[info]jadeleeauthor wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
My pleasure!
This was a lot of fun Lucienne...er, Varkat. Thanks for having me!
[info]varkat wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
Re: My pleasure!
Any time! Actually, Varkat has a bit of a historical story behind it. It comes from Various Katherines, some of my favorite characters in literature (Kate from The Taming of the Shrew, Kit from The Witch of Blackbird Pond...).
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